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you have fiscal cliff, you have hurricane sandy. are you optimistic about what's happening in the economy if you take out the potential shocks? >> i don't think we make any change at all. i think the job market is producing 150,000 jobs per month, that's what we've been producing since the beginning of the year, over the past year, past two years, some months we're a little lower, higher, sometimes seasonal adjustment. if you take this month's number and x out sandy, that's over 200,000. >> that will add some jobs, that's not a fair comparison. >> so 200,000 minus 60 is 150 -- >> so you're right there. >> i don't think the economy has chang chang changed deappreciably over the last year. >> well, i think coming into friday's number, we're a little -- we don't think there's 80,000 worth of impact, might be closer to 40,000 or 50,000. whatever, there's been an impact and i agree with mark's point, 1 in about 150,000 job creation in the economy and i don't know that meaningfully changes. but i would say, if anything, the bias next year
you have fiscal cliff, you have hurricane sandy. are you optimistic about what's happening in the economy if you take out the potential shocks? >> i don't think we make any change at all. i think the job market is producing 150,000 jobs per month, that's what we've been producing since the beginning of the year, over the past year, past two years, some months we're a little lower, higher, sometimes seasonal adjustment. if you take this month's number and x out sandy, that's over 200,000....
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now, again, back to hurricane sandy. from the commissioner's statement, the storm we saw happen on october 29th, the next pay period ended on november 12th. the way bls essentially keeps score it says workers have to be off work for the entire pay period to be counted on the negative side. on the household survey side, persons who missed work for weather-related events are counted as employed whether or not they are paid for the time off. we did have a drop in the labor force participation rate, down 0.2 to 63.6%. how did we get to 7.7% unemployment? basically the number of unemployed persons dropped more than the number of employed and there were downward trends in both those categories. lots to chew on. back to you guys. >> hampton, thank you. we are kind of scratching our heads. let's get more reaction from our panel. mark zandi and jared bernstein are here with us. mark, what do you make of this number? we've set this up as numbers were not going to be things we watched closely because of sandy. >> i'd say two things
now, again, back to hurricane sandy. from the commissioner's statement, the storm we saw happen on october 29th, the next pay period ended on november 12th. the way bls essentially keeps score it says workers have to be off work for the entire pay period to be counted on the negative side. on the household survey side, persons who missed work for weather-related events are counted as employed whether or not they are paid for the time off. we did have a drop in the labor force participation...
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know what's going on in the next couple of months, coupled with the fact we just came off of hurricane sandy, this is not the time to play games and taunt one another with these plans that everybody knows are not real plans. >> i agree, but i think we should look beyond one year's growth. we're talking about growth through 2050. the gentleman pretending to know he knows the growth rate between now and 2050 -- >> he gets paid to make predictions, steve. that's what he's doing. by the way, his former predictions have been right. let's give him that. >> some of them have been right. there was a guy in the 19th century who predicted we were all going to starve as he predicted the proplatiopulation of the world with but forgot to predict the agricultural technology. you can't hold one constant and let the other variable be a variable. >> right now this country is focusing on policies that continue to predistribute from the most productive members to those that may be more favorable. that's his point, that we've continued to lose momentum for the past several decades and continuing to implement th
know what's going on in the next couple of months, coupled with the fact we just came off of hurricane sandy, this is not the time to play games and taunt one another with these plans that everybody knows are not real plans. >> i agree, but i think we should look beyond one year's growth. we're talking about growth through 2050. the gentleman pretending to know he knows the growth rate between now and 2050 -- >> he gets paid to make predictions, steve. that's what he's doing. by the...
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as soon as you get done figuring out, how much is sandy, how much is not sandy, we have to start dealing with the fiscal cliff so there's a shock behind us and a shock in front of us. so we're in limbo right now. and we're expecting a big effect from sandy in the friday number, especially in maybe the household survey, they moved the survey week back a week. because of an early thanksgiving. they do that -- so instead of it being the week of the 12th, it's the week of the 5th. >> so this number is going to tell us nothing tomorrow? > know there's going to be a lot of discussion about it. i'll stick to my guns, it's a 125 to 150 economy growth some of that could be sandy. i don't donknow if you want to k about that chart. this looks at the net effect acceptable. if 30% say it's acceptable and 20% say -- these are what we asked people. how many is that? that's five of eight different solutions. >> people say, yes, we're okay dealing with the fiscal cliff, if you raise taxes on those who make more than $250,000 and then you cap deductions, and virtually everything else is off the table. >>
as soon as you get done figuring out, how much is sandy, how much is not sandy, we have to start dealing with the fiscal cliff so there's a shock behind us and a shock in front of us. so we're in limbo right now. and we're expecting a big effect from sandy in the friday number, especially in maybe the household survey, they moved the survey week back a week. because of an early thanksgiving. they do that -- so instead of it being the week of the 12th, it's the week of the 5th. >> so this...
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amazon is just a winner here particularly in sandy. i regard google as making a comeback. i think that when you look at what -- apple fears google. google is going to do better going forward. look at facebook by the way. they figured out things. i'm not going to be -- i'm looking at stocks that once we go over the cliff bounce back and if we don't go over the cliff are where a lot of money is going. >> where does ulta, are these tier 2 names? >> ulta is -- david and i joke about this. it's the growth stock -- key to this market. gilliad has been great. same with ulta. you may laugh at ulta. i won't finish my sentence. >> i may. >> this double the store thing is what whole foods says. any time you can double stores, growth guys just love it. >> we're told there's no concern if we go over the fiscal cliff that that will result in some sort of a chill in the housing recovery offer the housing market. this harvard study that bob toll cited, 1.8 to 2.8 million households fewer since 2007 were formed and that's playing catchup. we should have the formation of those households un
amazon is just a winner here particularly in sandy. i regard google as making a comeback. i think that when you look at what -- apple fears google. google is going to do better going forward. look at facebook by the way. they figured out things. i'm not going to be -- i'm looking at stocks that once we go over the cliff bounce back and if we don't go over the cliff are where a lot of money is going. >> where does ulta, are these tier 2 names? >> ulta is -- david and i joke about...
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some of that is attribute knowledge to superstorm sandy. an estimated quarter million vex were destroyed. those numbers will be out this morning. it would only say that it is speaking to, quote, interested parties. but delta air lines is involved in those sdgzs. virgin is the second largest airline at heath row. >>> and lenny dykstra will be sentenced today. he was found to have hidden and stole sports memorabilia other items that were supposed to be part of a bankruptcy filing. >>> the game of political chicken, we were looking to rise above the partisan politics and trying to get something done. david walker, ceo of the america comeback initiative, steve mcmahon, co-founder of purple strategies, you guys have been on for a while and we've talked about a lot of things. steve, just 1:30 ag ago, you made a point talking about the bush tax cuts. and i said the tax cuts have been near and dear and you said at least bush was smart enough to know that we couldn't afford them so they were sunseted. >> so they were sunseted. >> that may happen. in
some of that is attribute knowledge to superstorm sandy. an estimated quarter million vex were destroyed. those numbers will be out this morning. it would only say that it is speaking to, quote, interested parties. but delta air lines is involved in those sdgzs. virgin is the second largest airline at heath row. >>> and lenny dykstra will be sentenced today. he was found to have hidden and stole sports memorabilia other items that were supposed to be part of a bankruptcy filing....
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president obama asked congress ssday for more than $60 billion today p states rebuild after superstorm sandy. in new york city, a jury deliberated more than a week in the trial of a bus driver accused of being so tired, he caused a crash that killed 15 of his passengers. today came the verdict: not guilty. and michelle miller tells us the driver is a free man tonight. .> how do you find the >> hndant, guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. t reporter: the bus driver wept veen he heard the verdict. ears ill williams could have faced 15 years in prison. hisas driving 32 people from a connecticut casino to new york's chinatown when his bus hit a guardrail, toppled, and was torn open by a signpost. williams claimed he'd been cut off by a tractor-trailer. investigators found no evidence of that. but they discovered williams averaged three hours of sleep in the days before the crash. they cited driver fatigue as the probable cause. florence wong's father don lee was killed in the crash. >> he had 15 lives that was under under his control and they're not here. he has to live with that with conscinsci
president obama asked congress ssday for more than $60 billion today p states rebuild after superstorm sandy. in new york city, a jury deliberated more than a week in the trial of a bus driver accused of being so tired, he caused a crash that killed 15 of his passengers. today came the verdict: not guilty. and michelle miller tells us the driver is a free man tonight. .> how do you find the >> hndant, guilty or not guilty? >> not guilty. t reporter: the bus driver wept veen he...
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are all the sandy charities getting all the money this year? >> unfortunately when disasters happen there is flood of money because of a good heart of americans and it is appropriate that way, but when it happens right have to make choices where your charitable dollars to go there is tension and some charities that lose out that really need help. of course it is no easy choice for a donor. we recommend if at all possible that you don't forget those charities that are there for you all year-round. gerri: up 7.5% for the big charities. that is an amazing number. ken, thanks for coming on. it is charitynavigate tore.org, correct? >> correct. gerri: great website. president obama and his family getting into the christmas spirit at the 90th tree-lighting ceremony at the whites house. it was transplanted to the white house days before the hurricane. look at that. it is cool. it made it through unharmed. obama was saying santa claus is coming to town. this is the tree outside. guess what? there are 54 more of them inside the house. than last year. the
are all the sandy charities getting all the money this year? >> unfortunately when disasters happen there is flood of money because of a good heart of americans and it is appropriate that way, but when it happens right have to make choices where your charitable dollars to go there is tension and some charities that lose out that really need help. of course it is no easy choice for a donor. we recommend if at all possible that you don't forget those charities that are there for you all...
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what does that say about the money from superstorm sandy and how will be used? the governors have asked for more money than ever in dealing with the aftermath of the storm or method is the same thing all over again. what governor cuomo is doing is focusing on a big number. $42 billion that he wanted from washington. he really has no idea what the damages and how much it will cost to fix the system -- the signal system in the subways. they really won't know anyone have any idea any idea how much it will really need until later. gerri: it is a guessing game. >> exactly. the local and state politicians think of this is free money and they don't spend it well. gerri: i saw the list that andrew cuomo requested and he wanted everything but a pony. [laughter] >> new york city is paying hundreds of dollars per night for empty hotel rooms. it's free money, as michael said. that is the kind of attitude where nobody really watches. everybody assumed someone else is going to pay later. but we all pay because the cost of living is reflected in the way government wastes money
what does that say about the money from superstorm sandy and how will be used? the governors have asked for more money than ever in dealing with the aftermath of the storm or method is the same thing all over again. what governor cuomo is doing is focusing on a big number. $42 billion that he wanted from washington. he really has no idea what the damages and how much it will cost to fix the system -- the signal system in the subways. they really won't know anyone have any idea any idea how much...